i think i’ve reevaluated my grade of invincible. yes, again. carolyn pointed out, rightly so, that neither one of us would have bought the cd if it wasn’t MJ. yup, that’s true. not really cuz it’s bad, but…i HATE POP MUSIC! lol…there are some very huge limitations in invincible, and some problems i have with it, other than the pop music thing.
1. it’s really over produced – if you listen to dangerous, which people thing is overproduced as well, dangerous looks like it’s acoustic compared to invincible. i think all of the ballads with the exception of cry, on invinicble, could be 10 times better, and perhaps even tolerable to me, if they were stripped down to vocals and a few background instruments. screw the layered vocals, the choirs, etc…i’m going to contemplate how the ballads could be improved later when i have time (aka when i’m doing neuropsych lol). even compared to HIStory, HIStory sounds so less produced than invincible.
2. this is kind of a joke, but these are all mariah carey songs LOL. – heartbreaker…butterflies…those are names of Mariah songs, not MJ songs…when i saw the tracklisting of invincible i was like, dude, mariah carey LOL. i also was like, could u have any more stupidly titled songs…and a more stupidly titled album? i’ve gotten over that tho. they make sense now lol
3. this cd was 6 years in the making. it should have been better.
4. this cd was 6 years in the making. it sounds so forced, and incomplete i think. it seems as if they were all rushed to throw some incoherent songs together. i don’t expect MJ to record a theme type album, like NIN’s the fragile, or like…pink floyd. but some coherence is good, and I don’t think invincible has it. maybe that goes back to my whole problem with the track order. alot of people have expressed dislike for the first 3 songs being all lumped together. so i’m not alone in that.
maybe that’s it. just an observation, but i think the cd booklet is completely messed up. track 1 credits Brandy with backup vocals, but i hear no woman singing in that song. yet heaven can wait has distinct female back up vocals, and no credit…it sounds like Brandy. Then the lost children has credits regarding clips from the twilight zone…but threatened has the rod serling spoken parts…i dunno, maybe i’m wrong.
ok so while i like aspects of invincible, i hate aspects of it. even if i never listen to it again after this intial period, i like it. i like it because of it’s flashes of brilliance, the fact that MJ sounds AMAZING even if i dont like what he’s singing…and i like it because it has made me pull out all of my old school mj stuff (bad, dangerous) and rediscover how fucking amazing he really is.
along the lines of the incoherence of invincible, there is a thread on the u2 msgbd about Pop…lots of people don’t like Pop, or didn’t like Pop but do now, and the critics hated it. someone said something about how all of Pops songs (or most of them) were unfinished, or at least sound that way. that never ever popped into my mind regarding that cd. but it sorta makes sense. it was like, they finished tracks 1-7, were happy with them, and then threw on a bunch of songs they didnt have time to finish at the end so they could release something. i dunno if i completely believe that, but…it could explain why i hate the rest of that cd… however i did gain a new appreciation for “if you wear that velvet dress” and “please” – i got please in my head randomly in class today….but i still can’t listen to the end of the cd.
in my constant reevaluation of invincible, here are the songs i really like:
unbreakable
heaven can wait
you rock my world
2000 watts
privacy
don’t walk away
cry
whatever happens
threatened
and sometimes throw in heartbreaker and invincible. so what % is that? 9/16 – 56%….excluding those 2…including them it’s 69%…haha ok now lets procrastinate some more and figure out my % of liking of other mj albums
off the wall – 8/10 (not bad, but its sooo disco) – 80%
thriller – 8/9 – 88%… dude there are only 9 tracks on thriller?! wtf lol
bad – 100%
dangerous – 12/14 sometimes 11/14 – 86%
history disc 2 – 9/15 and i’m being generous here – 60%
blood on the dance floor doesnt count, i like 3 of the new songs, none of the remixes
amazing michael jackson songs in no particular order
– give into me – dangerous
– dangerous – dangerous
– is it scary – blood on the dance floor
– dirty diana – bad
– smooth criminal – bad
– liberian girl – bad
– man in the mirror – bad
– stranger in moscow – HIStory
– earth song – HIStory
– who is it – dangerous
– in the closet – dangerous
– human nature – thriller
– ok, fine, thriller lol – thriller
– wanna be startin something – thriller
– the entire dangerous album if you delete black or white, heal the world, and gone too soon lol…
4 words
man
in
the
mirror
ahhh!